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Arielle D.
ARIELLE D.
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7 month old
KATIE, PARENT OF 3 YEAR OLD, 17 MONTH OLD

My daughter is 7 months old and wakes up 1:30 am and then up for the day at 6-6:30 am. Is it too early to try to cut out that 1:30 am feed? Or should I try to push it back?

Arielle
ARIELLE

Hi Katie,

Does she fall back asleep easily after the feed? How is her weight?

Arielle

KATIE

She falls back asleep very easily. All in all, were awake for 10-15 mins. She weighed 17 lbs at her 6 month check up and is in a high percentile (70s, I believe).

Arielle
ARIELLE

Does she wake up at the same time every night?

KATIE

Within 45-60 mins but usually right at the same time for a few nights.

Arielle
ARIELLE

Have you ever done any sleep training with her?

KATIE

Yes. We let her CIO for one night and she went down to 1-2 night wakings. I didn't get up right away last night when she woke up at 1:30 and she cried for 5 mins and woke up again at 2:45 so I went in then.

Arielle
ARIELLE

I would just do CIO and get rid of the feed. It's a great sign that she cried for 5 minutes and went back to sleep! You will likely have a couple of rough nights, but then she will be fine. :)

KATIE

Great, thank you!!

Arielle
ARIELLE

You're welcome! :)

KATIE

She woke up at 11:30 (weird) and 1:30, cried for a few mins each time. But she went from 6:30pm-5:45am with no feeding. Thank you!!

Arielle
ARIELLE

Fabulous!!! :)

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Once a night for a 7 month old
KATHERINE, PARENT OF 3 YEAR OLD

I have an almost 7 month old who has been waking up once a night for months. He is a mix of breast and formula and solid food fed, goes down around 6:30pm, up around 3:30, breast feeds and goes right back to sleep until 6:30am. I always feed him because I worry he is actually hungry but I am getting tired of this. Any advice to get him to skip that wake up. He goes down easy and takes good naps so I know I'm lucky in a lot of ways and I don't want to "break" his good habits by doing anything to aggressive, sleep-training wise.

KATHERINE

Also he is big: 19 lbs

Arielle
ARIELLE

How much is he getting during the day (of BM and formula)?

KATHERINE

Hard to know for sure but eating 5-6 ounces every 3-4 hrs

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10 month old nursing effecting sleep
BAILEY, PARENT OF 3 YEAR OLD

My just turned 10 month old decided last week that he isn't going to nurse well during the day. Now he is waking 3+ times at night and waking early. Will this continue to effect his sleeping at night until I can hopefully find a better eating schedule for his new preferences? Will waking and nursing throughout the night start bad routines?

Arielle
ARIELLE

Hmmm. This almost sounds like he could have an ear infection. Sucking can be very painful when babies have ear infections and ear infections can also cause night wakings out of nowhere. I would have his ears checked!

BAILEY

That is what I thought. I took him into the doctor last Friday and there were no signs of ear infection, and he was given a clean bill of health. He is starting to walk and talk much more, even asking "that?" and pointing. Which stated the day before he decided to go from nursing every 4 hours on the dot, to maybe twice during the day if I catch him when he is just waking up.

Arielle
ARIELLE

Oh wow! Ok. Yes, those developments could absolutely be affecting his sleep. Have you ever done any sleep training with him? Is he getting solids?

BAILEY

Yes, he is getting solids. Before last week he was just getting them twice a day, as he did not show any interest in the morning after nursing and before 1st nap. Since he has cut back on nursing I have bumped it up to three times a day. We have not don't formal sleep training, but for naps I will let him cry it out and after bed time routine he is usually asleep within 10 minutes.

Arielle
ARIELLE

Ok, I would try not to rush into him when he wakes in the night. When is he napping during the day and for how long? When do you put him to bed?

Also, check out this website for some really helpful tips for kiddos his age with regard to eating! http://wholesomebabyfood.momtastic.com/babymenub.htm

BAILEY

Ok. He takes two naps down at 9-9:30 ish and sleeps for 1.5 hours and again at 1-1:30 1.5 hours. In bed by 7.

Arielle
ARIELLE

Ok, I would try backing up his bedtime just a little. 4 hours is a long wake time for a baby his age. I would try for 3.5 hours after waking from nap. I would try NOT feeding him in the night at this point.

BAILEY

Perfect. I will give that a try.

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Night waking & Nap struggle - 15 mos
MEGAN, PARENT OF 4 YEAR OLD, 22 MONTH OLD

My son is almost 15 months and has never been a great sleeper. We weaned off breastfeeding at 13 months and have successfully sleep trained but it was not easy. We just had a blissful month of him sleeping through the night from 7:30 to 6/6:30 and now we are suddenly back to wake ups at 1am. I have tried to let him cry it out a little to see if he will go back down (~15 minutes) but he is really persistent and hysterical. As soon as we go in to check on him he will calm down and fall asleep while being rocked. He is healthy (though teething) and a great eater. As soon as we put him down to sleep again, he pops up to standing, followed by crying. For example, I could be up for 2 hours easily, picking him up and putting him down until he is asleep or calm again. At this point, since we need our sleep and we are in a bit of survival mode, I pull him into bed with us and he will go down until 630. In parallel to this new wake up, I have had more trouble putting him down at night in. He is crying to sleep for up to an hour some nights. I want to be consistent and not send mixed messages, but I'm concerned he's crying to much to sleep and then again crying in the middle of the night. I'm desperate for ideas?

Also regarding naps, that is also a struggle as I bet you could guess. He is still at 2 naps but maybe transitioning to 1. He generally still has a good morning nap 1-1.5 hours but he seems to be taking a very short, 30 minute naps in the afternoon if any at all.

Thanks so much for your help.

Arielle
ARIELLE

Sounds like he's ready for one nap AND ready for a firmer method of sleep training. Pick up/put down is really for babies under 6 months. At his age, your presence may only be prolonging his wakings.

MEGAN

Thank you - is there a specific method you would recommend for this age? I assume tackle bedtime first then naps?

Arielle
ARIELLE

You may try Camping out or progressive checks at this age. It's up to you! You can either do nights and days separately or together. :)

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Sleep schedule
CRISTINA, PARENT OF 5 YEAR OLD, 3 YEAR OLD

Hi Arielle,
I sent Tinyhood an email as I keep getting an error when trying to subscribe.
In the meanwhile, following your advice for my 4.5 months old , this is how the day went:
8.00 am wake up ( after a very bad night)
9.30 am nap 1- fell asleep at 10.00 until 10.40 and stayed in bed with hubby next to him until 11.
12.30 nap 2- slept for 20 min only
3.00 pm nap 3- slept for 20 min, woke up briefly then 20 min more
6.30 bath
7.00 pm trying to put him to sleep... it's 7.33 pm here now and he has no intention of going to sleep whatsoever...:(

Arielle
ARIELLE

He's wildly overtired. His bedtime was far too late particularly after such short naps during the day.

I'm confused though - what advice did you follow? That schedule is not one that I would have recommended.

CRISTINA

Here are guidelines you gave me and next to them what I did. I didn't follow to the exact minute... but I think I did follow a little....
Wake by 7 a.m.- he woke up 8 am
Nap 1 around 8:30 a.m.- he went 9.30
Nap 2 around 12/12:30 p.m. (12 if nap 1 is less than 1 hour)- he went 12.30 ( should that have been 1.30 as I delayed everything 1 hour??)
Nap 3 90 minutes after waking from second nap- he went at 3pm
Bedtime 90 minutes after waking from nap 3 but no sooner than 5 p.m.- went at 7.00

Arielle
ARIELLE

Ok, the timing matters a lot. He needs to be woken by 7 if he's not awake by then so that the schedule is followed closely. Timing matters when it comes to this.

If naps are under 1 hour, you will need to back up the next nap so that it's earlier. So if the second nap was only 20 minutes, I would do the next nap an hour later, and then bedtime one hour after that (but no sooner than 5 p.m.). The wake time between last nap and bed was far too long, so baby is overtired.

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1 year old Night Waking
TAMMY, PARENT OF 3 YEAR OLD

My son is almost one (in two weeks). At 10 months, we put him on a new schedule sleeping from 6:30 p.m. to 6:30 a.m., two naps a day at 9:30 and 1:30. And we seemed to have some resemblance of normalcy. He falls asleep on his own after the bedtime routine.

Over the last month, he's had at least two nights of night waking a week and stays up for an hour to two hours a night. He eventually goes to sleep on his own. But I'm not sure what causes the extended time awake. He does still wake once a night for feeding around 1:30 or 2:00 in the morning (which I would love to cut). His bedtime has shifted to 7:00-8:00 p.m. due to longer naps during the day. He's also recently started to be very clingy during the day. This may be related.

So my questions are 1) Are these night wakings normal and related to development? Is it caused by the night feeding (should I stop this feeding)?

Arielle
ARIELLE

How soon after the feed are the wakings happening?

Also, is he working on crawling or walking by any chance?

TAMMY

Sometimes it's directly after a feeding, he just doesn't go back to sleep at 2:00 or whatever time he initially wakes. Sometimes its earlier in the night - 11:00 p.m. and he'll stay awake until the feeding at 1:30. 95% of the time he's not crying. He's just awake in his crib. The last two nights though, he has cried.

He just recently started practicing standing alone and took a first step over the weekend. Not yet walking alone.

Arielle
ARIELLE

Ah, ok. My guess is that it's likely related to walking. I would, however, consider dropping the night feed.

TAMMY

Thanks! I think I'll try to stop that feeding this weekend.

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Toddler waking up multiple times
KASEY, PARENT OF 6 YEAR OLD, 4 YEAR OLD

My 3.5 year old girl went through some rough sleep regression with adenoid surgery, moving, giving up the binky, new pre-k and potty training hover the last several months. We sleep trained since she was a baby and was on a really good schedule. But we sort of got lax with a lot of these things going on one after another and are just getting back on track. She is falling asleep by herself in her room but will wake up every night and come into our room. She either wants to sleep in bed with us or for me to come in her bed. I try to always take her back to her room but results in subsequent wakings and trips back to bed. She doesn't take a nap anymore because she takes 2 hours to fall asleep then. How do we train her to stay in her bed when waking up at night????

Arielle
ARIELLE

What time are you putting her to bed?

KASEY

7:30 ish now that she doesn't take a nap she is asleep by 8 mostly

Arielle
ARIELLE

Ok, are you able to get her to bed any sooner?

KASEY

Probably. She doesn't have an early wake up time although 6 am has been her favorite lately. Mostly she sleeps til 7/730

Arielle
ARIELLE

Ok. When a child drops a nap, they go through a funky stage during which they are getting used to not having the daytime sleep. This can often leave them exhausted by the end of the day. When a child becomes overtired, her brain fills with cortisol, adrenaline, and norepinephrine. These hormones make it difficult for them to fall asleep and/or stay asleep. This can lead to night wakings and earlier than usual wakeups.

The best thing to do during this nap transition is to get them down sooner rather than later. I would recommend aiming to have her asleep between 6:30 and 7 if at all possible. You may consider making a routine chart. I would have a clear conversation with her and let her know that she will not be sleeping in your bed and you will not be sleeping in hers. It can be an upbeat conversation, but just a clear conversation. When she wakes in the night, return her to bed without any conversation and keep lights off. Remind her that it's time to sleep and she needs to sleep in her own room, but make it all very boring and no bargaining.

KASEY

Thank you! She does start to bounce off the walls at a certain time after dinner so that's probably her overload point! I'll give this a try.

Arielle
ARIELLE

Let me know how it goes!